Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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Re: Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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If I were the Terrans, I would create some probes rather than risk espionage against the Omega. The former is no big deal, the latter is risky as Hell as it would damage excellent diplomatic relations.

The Heyoun have been skirting around oh so carefully as they are not shy about peeking into their neighbor's territory. Better to beg forgiveness than ask for permission.

Both are allied with the Omega. That was not done lightly.

The Khaoran have humiliated themselves as when a magnanimous peace offering is made, there is no dishonor in accepting it. Only an imbecile fights persistently when hopelessly outmatched. They are demonstrating zero military finesse. It's like a 2 year old having temper tantrums. What they are doing is intentionally wasting the lives of brave soldiers. That is just wrong.

No Klingon would ever do this. If he or she did, his own soldiers would challange his command and throw him in irons in utter humilation for ruining the Klingon empire. It's a disgrace not even Durass would do.
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Re: Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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I'm glad to make these advanced save games, but the slightest praise or even reasonable criticism will encourage me to make more and do far more complex ones.

If we had hex-editing for saved games, I would boost the ai empires and what ships, troops, treasury, and infrastructure they have. I would alter the difficulty level. I could create scenarios where the AI is strong and the human player is weaker and at a disadvantage.

If we had a map and campaign editor, I would make wonderful extremely complicated scenarios. I would make fast scenarios to play at meal time or lasting a day.
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Re: Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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Now what I'm thinking of doing is if the Khaoran relent and offer a friendship treaty, not co-op, I may acquise and halt sabotage to let them catch up and do low level espionage on the Terrans, Heyoun, and Khaoran. That way I know what's going on. Eventually it may force them to have a war pact against the Omega which would be a great turn of events as a challenge given the Omega are so much stronger.

So people can try their luck at turns at 300 or 400 which are easy, but then it will start getting hard as they all will start sabotaging the Omega. I want a strong end game so turn #500, #600, and #700 will sharply diverge. The Omega may refuse to enter a war pact against any of them, hoping that they will turn against me as the Omega are the genuine threat.

If they attack the Khaoran, I may stay out of it as they will weaken each other.
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Re: Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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Turn 408
81 inhabited regions
Multiple sabotage/espionage per turns against the Khaoran. I doubt the friendship offer ever happens as they are so openly loathing and resigned to being a nemesis now.

Pay attention to three regions: Karrehae 2, Okul, and possibly Icosium as staging areas for launching invasions. That is what I would be planning now if imagining persisting in pointless conflict. It's completely illogical which is one reason why BotE is far more demanding than chess as the outcome is determined by useless moves, yet chess is a far shorter game.

The Heyoun are starting to park heavy destroyers near the easten sphere of influence regions of the Omega empire as if to "claim" that region. That is unwise. They have poorly expanded and when you do so, you have logistics issues deploying ships and troop transports.

No issues with the Terrans, but I suspect they are #1 in the military slot...but why? Plausibly to invade the western sphere of influence of the Khaoran. That is what I would do and end the alliance with them. If they do so or the Heyoun does so, it gives me breathing room. If I were the Heyoun, I would put my capital ships along their northern border and try to limit Khaoran expansion into their sphere of influence.

So I was approaching the #1 military slot, and suddenly I suspect the Terrans are making lots of capital class ships like heavy cruisers and heavy destroyers based on the score difference.

The Omega are 2x the Science and Productivity of the average score and 3x the GDP, but I'm halfway through special research and so not advancing in level 9 tech.

Money is being poured into infrastructure and a few are struggling to gain a comfortable storage of food as so many intelligence operatives are working and not working in agriculture. That means manually doing worker management which is a pain in the butt.

The profit to be made is in deuterium as titanium is well controlled now, and so I'm focusing on that to take advantage so have higher profitability to put right back into infrastructure. Duranium, crystals, and iridium are all paying off well.

Deritium production is slow, yet the places which can be make my heavy cruisers lack deritium. Omega Alpha needs to focus on combat training and advanced ship support and leveling up production as 3 systems have resource routes to it. It's a struggle to make it self supporting and generate ships there.

I need some troop transports to relocate level 5 ground forces to take those 2 Khaoran staging areas plus an additional one. Then the Omega can dictate the battlefields vs reacting. I want to be logically responding with strategic goals and have mustered forces on those 3 places. That's my goal for turn #500.

It's like the Japanese takes Hawaii in 1900 and it ends up causing an alternate history of the Russo-Japanese War. They actually did want to do so in history.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hawaii
The Japanese sent warships in 1897.
(The Japanese opposed US annexation of Hawaii because they wanted to annex it themselves as 25% were of Japanese ancestry).

Naturally the turn times take longer and longer now. It may be a week before turn#500 gets loaded as a save game. Playing this way is more conservative as I can't use bold strategy or have infrastructure growth issues. I'm playing the long game as if I get tunnel vision, the Heyoun may start sabotaging or the Terrans (to a lesser degree).

Carpe diem (seize the day) works on the battlefield at the tactical level. If you plan boldly in strategic terms, like the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor, well it ends up ruinous as it galvanizes your enemies. No one seizes the year or decade or the century now. Not since the Spanish or Ottoman empire or the Nazis.
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Re: Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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It's amusing that wargames like the 4x genre focus on empire building. Other than ancient empires, every attempt fails in history. They may be solid and then there are no aristocratic descendants to perpetuate them. They stalemated each other. They unravel by their despots and monarchs getting sick. Infrastructure building exceeds profits as the rulers had hoped to exploit colonies. Veteran soldiers get homesick and bitter.

The Crusades failed. The Middle East did not hold in any unified way. The Spanish empire lasted 300 years but their New World colonies asserted themselves. The Tokugawas had 200 years and only controlled a region the size of California. China stalled as an empire. The British and French colonial ambitions failed.

Empires do not work.
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Re: Advanced save Omega vs Terrans Khaoran Heyoun

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Occupation is the bane of every soldier's existence. Everyone hates it meaning it unravels. Occupation is expensive. You can take territory, but unless you plundered and leave, you lose your profits. Client states don't work as all people want self determination and autonomy.

That is why morale falls in the other advanced save game #700 as the Omega. It's historically acurrate. The People want victory as they live vicariously through the soldier's victory, but then get bored and want their sons and husbands to come home.

The reality is any empire just glitters but isn't gold and it glitters only briefly.
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