Acquiring ready made minor race fleets

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Acquiring ready made minor race fleets

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If you select a higher number of minor races, then more of these will show up, and some percentage have ready made fleets. Their fleets cannot attack you, but stay in their sector and defend them. If you fly into their sector, prepare to be crushed. Save your game frequently.

You also have a galaxy setting that sets the number of neighbors, so if you set it higher, than each major alien race will have far more minor alien races neightbors. One will automatically loathe you. It's not personal. You are right butt up against them and so it irritates them as you are considered a threat. Eventually even they will.come around.

There's a number that controls how the map will be generated (the seed). You might set the major races very high and see where the major races end up. Personally,unless the galaxy map is 40x40, there is insufficient room for six empires and straight away one empire is likely to get clobbered and severely weaken the one attacking them. That is a bad idea as it might be your major alien race that is affected. You may end up with little territory and bad range as you may be smack dab up against the edge of the galaxy. It's safer but less sectors.

Now early on you should be constantly scouting and this is especially important if many minor alien races are populating the sectors as they get better start positions. So you are desperately looking for colony sites both to generate income but resources too.

Likely your range will severely hamper your efforts and some scouts will stumble into fleets. Some will take mercy on you and not attack you.

You want to be on your best behavior and not attack even when you can as you initially are very weak and can't afford attrition.

You aim for good behavior and similar ethos and not bribing as it is too easy to offend your neighbors, and conducting favorable trade, and that leads to friendship.

Don't fly over their sectors as it pisses them off. It's wise to terraform their sectors when you have friendship as that is the fastest way to improve diplomatic relations at first.

That leads to a diplomatic stance of cooperation. That leads to alliances. Ideally you want minor alien races to suggest these. One turn you may suggest a better treaty and they refuse and laugh in your face or even are insulted,and then two turns later they offer an even better treaty! It's somewhat random, but clearly youractions have an effect.

Now the Terrans have a HUGE diplomatic advantage so they end up gaining members readily and may get several to want to be members and so gain their fleets. This makes playing against the Terrans a rotten idea for beginners.

It's expensive to take care of your colonized sectors and your new member minor alien races as they expect you to improve their sector.

The ones who will join have similar attributes so it's wise to study up on the alien races. I have made MANY topics on all of these aspects in far greater detail with BotE wiki references so all the information is in one topic.

The best references in the wiki are in German. If you use google chrome, it will ask if you want to autotranslate. You should take advantage of that.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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Re: Acquiring ready made minor race fleets

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It seems that any major race can gain some minor races as members eventually,but they might not have fleets.

I bet the same minor races are very likely to always be more inclined than others.

Some would never be members with some major alien races.

You can't give gifts because initially money is terribly tight, but you might try sweetening the deal with resources. They generally like that. I was shocked the first time a minor alien race with strong fleets joined as members. It was like winning the lottery as those starships were far better than any that I could make even if I had the cash.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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Re: Acquiring ready made minor race fleets

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Carefully manipulating the resource economy is how you have the spare cash to offer gifts. I've written dozens of posts on how to do that successfully. I thinkyou have to learn how to do that or you can never afford the right starships or afford all the expensive research.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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I would turn off all goals as you might be doing very well and on your way to gain a minor race fleet, and suddenly some major alien race wins a research victory.

If you are going to set a goal, pick that one and rush to get it. Then when it says you won,choose "keep playing". Then every time you reload a savegame from that win, then the first round it does the same thing,but keep.playing and it stops asking you.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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Now the fleet compositionis odd. What happens is the fleet is typically of two ship classes. So say with Andromeda, a BUNCH were colony ships! So straight away, I sent them all out to do terraformig and take sectors. I wasn't expecting colony ships. They also had cruisers as I recall.

The Zhordians had heavy destroyers and battleships.

Now as soon as possible,build any ship training facilities. Then rotate your minor race fleets to that sector with the training facility. It makes a big difference in battle outcome as it produces veterans instead of green recruits.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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Now you can try doing ship composition by mixing and matching those minor race alien ships and your own. But don't waste them on pointless battles. It's unneccessary and you can't afford to replace them.

You want to build transports and define your borders and eztend your range. The AI will certainly be doing so.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
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Now look at the ship designer which is found under the research database. Now that you gained minor alien race ships, you get to mix and match attributes from their designs with your designs. But at first you do NOT want to do this as even if they are better, you will end upmessing up the basi ship designs and or making your ships too expensive. The point is to know how to do it, and see whatchanges will do, but not leave them reconfigured just yet.

By doing this, you ultimately can create superstarships that are way stronger, firemore,torpedos, are faster, are more manueverable,etc.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
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Your goal is to intimately know what major and minor alien race starships can do as you will eventually fight them and it's stupid to go into battle and not know the characteristics of the enemy. You will lose that battle and it's your own fault.

Look up different topics on tactics as I included wiki references to help you. You would not believe how much work I've done to try to get the documentation easier to access.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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Unless you are playing the Terrans, I doubt you get more than 2-3 minor alien fleets. As many turns pass, the chance of getting membership from such powerful minor alien races with fleets seems to plummet in plausibility.

Don't blow your chances early on as then the AI who successfully does so...will crush you.

Even the Khaoran gain minor race fleets. Some minor races with fleets like some major races and will join them, and maybe even the Heyoun? Why in the world would any trust the Cartare? I will never know. The Roatharians can gain fleets too.
Minor Race Database http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... r_(Minors)
Minor Race Ships http://birth-of-the-empires.de/wiki/ind ... nen_Völker
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